Ep3_Voices Of Academia_ Disability and the power of acceptance with Syreeta Nolan
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Emily (host):
Academia is rewarding, but it's also a huge challenge. It's too easy to feel invisible. Please, let's just talk about it all the difficult things you think you have to hide. I'm Emily and this is the Voices of Academia podcast. Each month you'll hear a conversation with a different researcher released in fortnightly episodes. First, you'll hear their story of mental health in academia.
Emily (host):
Then you'll learn how the experience was managed. You realize that actually you're not alone. As a global community of researchers that want to talk about how hard this is, and how it can be better.
Emily (host):
Welcome back to Voices of Academia. I'm your host, Emily, a 3rd year Ph.D. student in Melbourne, Australia. Last episode, we had the mental health story of Syreeta, a senior undergraduate student from San Diego in the US. Today, we'll hear how Syreeta was supported through her experiences and how she's learned to manage her mental health. So welcome back.
Syreeta:
Thank you so much Emily, you are awesome thank you for being who you are.
Emily (host):
Thank you. So I wanted to start because we sort of touched on it a little bit last episode. You mentioned that you have gone through this self acceptance process and that you have learned to accept all of who you are. And that's changed everything. And I'd really like to talk about that.
Emily (host):
I mean, where do you even start?
Syreeta:
Have you heard of Kubler-Ross's stages of grief?
Emily (host):
Yes.
Syreeta:
It's something slightly different that she made. Is Kubler-Ross's change curve. Have heard of it?
Emily (host):
No.
Syreeta:
It is this remarkable change curve that I don't want to misquote. Someone could quickly Google it. But essentially there's this place of shock when something changes.
Syreeta:
So, yeah, I love myself. That really shocked agony moment where I'm like, oh, crap, this hurts. I don't know if I'm strong enough to deal with it. And then you move on to denial and it's like, no, no, I'm not good or dealing with this. Then you do allow that moment of frustration of, oh crap a lot harder than I thought it was.
Syreeta:
And there are these low moments of depression within the change curve where you're like, well, this is like now, what am I to do? And you ask yourself, what am I going to do into this experiment stage where you get to engage with a new situation from a more positive place.
Syreeta:
And we come to this point of decision learning to work in that new situation. And then there's a point where I've reached where is found integrating. So long that process of the change curve. It increased my ability to accept myself, to advocate for myself. And integration for me is not seeing disability the way my campus sees disability with the medical model as a liability. But realizing that there are some good things like I problem solve more around my bad moment and that problem solving ability is very useful in academia and I can persevere through the bad moments and then they help me through moments when my research doesn't quite go the way I wanted and I need to restart. So there's so many transferable lessons. Once you accept disability yourself and once you're able to accept it, you're able to help others accept it. So it's like being able to give back and that's what I really value in being able to help others and help myself, because being at a point of denial and frustration is really going to lock you away from being able to do something productive for yourself while you're in the midst of that, this isn't me, this is still before. At times where I'd pretend that I'm not disabled. Like that, that abled dost over there, that's still me, like it's still part of me. I don't want to do that. Your body is going to go, No, we don't quite, that's not your stage right now. And, you know, you're going to feel the consequences of this later and disability checks you hard sometimes when you try to do more than you should.
Syreeta:
And it's a really humbling and beautiful experience, just like grief itself. When a loved one dies, it's really hard initially. But then you come to a point when you can see it, like we can value those really good memories of them. And in a way, it's like I really value some of the memories of when I wasn't disabled.
Syreeta:
But then I value the memories of when I am disabled, what I am able to make a difference when I'm able to help someone who felt like they had nothing and no one to realise they have something and someone to be there for them through this experience. So it's really made all the difference to me.
Emily (host):
I mean, how long did that take you? How long has that journey taken you? Because I imagine like most journeys, it's not linear. It's like a massive squiggle.
Syreeta:
I mean, when I was doing my guest lecture for communications, one that focused on politics of the body. I talked about the Kubler-Ross change curve and the next slide and what this really isn't a nice little change curve, it almost looks like this sloping thing, like one of those goes up and down, like, no, its a little bit more like this. And it was like one of rollercoasters that was a maelstrom of turns and it goes fast and like intense.
Syreeta:
And yeah, this journey is a daily journey because of undiagnosed sections of my disabilities and have some disabilities that I feel more integrated with, some that have more denial around because. I really don't want gastroparesis to be a progressive disease, I really don't, like that is so scary. So it's not even for me being at a stage where you are all the time, but just accepting the unknown in a way, helps a ton. And even though I have fibromyalgia, I never knew from one moment to the next how it's going to affect me. And I can't be angry with every flare up because being angry at the flare up makes it worse. So they have to kind of learn to relax around them. And that's a really challenging skill. It's basically like I give up. We watch some TV in my bed on my heating pad and relax. And I allow myself to relax. I allowed myself to take a break to eat when I need to, and I do my best to be my best in the ways that I can, even if it's not what the best looks like for everyone, even if it's not 80 hours a week. Why aren't you doing more? I'm not doing more because I can't.
Syreeta:
Because I can't literally I need to be good myself before I can be of any use to you, so.
Emily (host):
So I have two questions from that. So you mentioned just before that when you push back against it, sometimes that can sort of block you from moving forward. And I don't know if you can relate to sort of being in a bit of paralysis when you're sort of in denial with some of the things that you're trying to come to terms with. Do you have sort of a memory of of one of those times and possibly how you started that train of getting yourself back on track? Do you know what I mean? Like, because it can you know, it can really kind of derail you and feel like it's impossible to to keep going.
Syreeta:
I really feel like disability Twitter helped me a ton and developing disabled in higher Ed, cofounding it with so many amazing people, like I can't even name them all. I wish there was space for all their names in the credits, they are remarkable.
Emily (host):
We'll definitely mention disabled in higher ed and put it into the show notes as well.
Syreeta:
Thank you so much. And yeah, like I feel like developing that community where it was OK to talk about disability in higher Ed and how I don't feel supported and what does it look like for them? Like I felt like there wasn't this haze over grad school of what it looked like being disabled in grad school. I understood for the first time just a little bit, and that helped a lot. And I think what paralyses even more is just the pace of the unknown of the next step. And I think that's why when that person was talking about disabled faculty and stuff that I really clung onto it because undergrads are a little bit paralyzed being disabled because we had no clue what this looks like, we don't have anyone to look up to as mentors. And I find that to be the saddest part. And being able to establish this mental health matters with Ariana has been great, too, because it's opening larger dialogue about mental health and it's affects on your physical health because you can talk about bipolar disorder or any other disease. But sometimes it does have physical effects and you can talk about fibromyalgia, but sometimes it does have emotional burden. I can't do something I really wanted to and that does make me disappointed in life. Some days I thought, man this might go well today. Then, well, I realized I did not think such a good job. Ok, I have failed, but no, no, no, I did not fail. I am doing my best for myself and that's all I can really do, so.
Syreeta:
Being by yourself is what's most paralyzing, being alone and feeling like the only one dealing with disability, like we don't get cultural centers because we're not seen as a culture, a community or. We are seen as oh, that's a problem, let's go fix that. But until we are seen as a community, a culture and having our cultural spaces within academia and being able to be a tenured faculty or staff member and talk openly about your disability without fear of your job or being seen differently nothing is going to change.
Syreeta:
Until we change how we talk about disability and mental health and really understand that they coexist. Really they do. And the more you deny the co-existence of disability and mental health, the more you'll see these problems in academia, the more you see the students not being supported and staff hiding parts of themselves that students need to see.
Emily (host):
Absolutely, and I can relate to, you know, the positives of having a supportive Twitter community for my particular community. So Syreeta is the co-founder of Disability in Higher Ed and also Mental Health Matters for those of you that would like to engage with those communities on Twitter. We will also put some information in the show notes for you to refer to.
Emily (host):
So the other question that came up from before was that comparison question of, you know, I should be able to do this and I should be able to do that. But no, like I can't. How have you sort of learned to manage some of those thoughts that come up and to really advocate for yourself?
Syreeta:
Yeah, I love one of my classes yesterday that you just said, stop shitting on yourself like, as a person with disabilities sometimes I shit on myself a little bit more than I should. But I really feel like my team psychologist just helps me combat that. And I think it's crazy that it's not more known that pain psychology, health psychology and rehabilitation psychology are these fields of psychology that really focus on health and how it impacts our mental health. And bringing disability Twitter Pysch together is like a dream come true for Dis mental health matters. I really find that I've been able to move through some of those passages of acceptance just by having my counsellor help being like, well, you overcommitted, you need to drop them. Sometimes you need someone else to give us a reality check.
Syreeta:
And, you know, like seeing a counsellor is a good thing. There shouldn't be the stigma that is on mental health. And I find it sad that there is, because no matter if you have a mental illness or not, you have stress. Everyone has stress and stress can affect how our body responds to disabilities, stress can affect the way we respond to mental health. And I feel like having that relationship regularly has helped me make all the difference, like the transitions that I struggled making, she's helped me in just being able to understand that, yes, there are some things that you would like to do, but it doesn't mean you should do them. It doesn't mean you should do everything. You can't do it all by yourself.
Emily (host):
My psychologist is doing a similar thing to me at the moment. She's like, promise me you won't take on any more.
Syreeta:
Yes, made make the same promise too. She's like look Syreeta, I know you have a lot of things you want to do, but yeah, okay. It's like there's this conference that in, I think in their time, it'd be one a.m. You know, I'm like, do I go, do I go with I am a late night person? And sometimes I am about an hour, but then I feel like I have to shift my schedule for that.
Syreeta:
But yeah, so it's all about the same thing, I think a little further. And just being willing to say no, just say yes to yourself.
Emily (host):
And this brings up a couple of things. So I do want to go into your advocacy and how your experiences of sort of change the direction of your life, also the difficulties of trying to manage a disability with, you know, this explosion of opportunities for you. But the first thing I would like to just touch on, just because you've now mentioned your counsellor, is what are some of your support systems?
Syreeta:
Hmm, my support systems, so I love Celebrate Recovery. It's the Christ center and recovery program that helps for any hang up or habit. They are actually available on Twitter as well. So but, yeah, I like what I really love is that they have a group for survivors of physical, sexual and emotional abuse. And they have these 12 steps. And my sponsor is actually a woman who is a survivor, physical, sexual, emotional abuse, and she deals with invisible disabilities. So she also helps me help check me too.
Syreeta:
She helps remind me I shouldn't say yes to everything and just being able to focus on myself and my recovery and healing because the medical trauma is part of what you are feeling so that. And of course, my amazing Twitter community, like everyone that follows me, I appreciate you. Even new followers.
Syreeta:
The Higher Ed team, like we've been through so much together and brought together a community of over 2400 people now. It's a miracle to see a real thriving community. And our hashtag Dis in Higher Ed is used regularly and it's just really remarkable to see that.
Syreeta:
Yeah. And I have my amazing support at the University of California I was underrepresented students officer there, where one of the recent president was the first person to hold my position. I'm not the first person to be the underrepresented officer, I'm not, what I am is the first person to leverage this platform for students with disabilities. Like everyone else is usually focused on, like funding or like justice for black students. Never, ever has it been someone who just pours everything out for disabled students. And that is what I do. And the fact that it came out of a really bad moment to like the Zoom bombing happened and.
Emily (host):
What was that, could you explain that, because we haven't actually touched on that in the episode?
Syreeta:
Yeah, of course. So I initially when I started on disability advocacy, like almost a year ago, it was just here at UCSD. You see just local, trying to change how we did emergency planning. And I created a program called JADE for Justice Awareness and Disability Education that builds community within and between the disability communities and the abled communities. And, you know, I won my little friend, so we were thinking a little bear statue [mascot].
Syreeta:
It's important for resolving conflict constructively because I could have had a conflict moment with the housing liaison when she told me basically to go stay with a friend or leave before the fire drill. But I chose to really think of a solution and share that solution with my counsellor. And it really empowered me to start making change and I know I see the scope of it. But once the same bombing happened, when the same government created this space for Black students after the killings of George Floyd and many others here in the U.S. and I went on a 10/10 pain day, somehow I got just enough energy to get into the chair, occasional moments of turning away from the cameras to witness the pain. And like it was awful to sit in the chair that were non black people of color and a black person like was broken and just said, you know what, the next person that shares should be black because you created the space for us. Right? And every other hand lowered. So it's just my grade. And I begin to talk about how it would make such a difference if teachers would reach out to the disabled students to make sure they're OK. And that's when to Zoom bombers break in the room, they call me the N-word and expletives. And it was really hard to deal with. I saw the associated things government person break into tears. I saw their students trying to engage with the Zoom bomber. And I simply said, I reject your words. And muted myself because I had no more energy to expend on that. And what came of it was being connected to my external vice president here at UCSD that connects to the University of California Students Association, day of the deadline, would you like to apply for the position for the underrepresented students?
Syreeta:
I don't know if you have the right person, I have never been in government. I don't know if I can really be expected to anything with that. So you know we'll just shoot a shot in the dark and see what happens. And so I got it.
Emily (host):
And here we are.
Syreeta:
And I established the first UC system wide disability ad hoc committee that has six subcommittees to it. And it's just, ba-zonkers, how well this is all gone, like, oh, my gosh, I'm just stunned. And I now have like tomorrow I'm going to be speaking with Harvard and the Harvard Law Project on Disability and then UCLA Fielding School of Public Health or Health Policies for reopening like it's called, the full title is The Health Effects of COVID-19 for Reopening Policies and Practices of Disability. And it actually is to inform policy making and practice to enable better health and educational outcomes. My goal is health policy for a PhD program. Somehow everything that felt like it was living in left field came right to the center of my academic goal.
Syreeta:
And I'm like, this is amazing and the opportunities are really coming through, interacting and being here on academic Twitter, which I feel is that it's a shame that more undergrads don't know more about Twitter and how to really leverage it for their career. Like everything that I'm doing is because I think Twitter and really going beyond just the University of California system like I'm out of the bubble now. I feel like Twitter is the best kept secret from undergrads. And they see these workshops to teach undergrads about LinkedIn.
Syreeta:
But when most academics are really interactive and getting increased citations by posting on Twitter, I always end up with this question of, why? Why would you tell an undergrad about a tool you don't use yourself?
Emily (host):
Yeah, exactly, I totally agree. I tell everyone to use Twitter and they probably really annoyed about it by this point and I'm like, I know I go on about it a lot, but it's so helpful.
Emily (host):
So you're doing so much amazing advocacy now. And and I find it interesting, actually, we spoke before we started recording that neither of us feel like we're particularly political or, you know, neither of us have been to a protest before. And and now, you know, I was actually quite intimidated. I was intimidated to talk to you because I was like, oh, my God. She's like so like outspoken and amazing. And she's doing all this stuff in a community that I don't really understand. And it's so interesting to get a look into what's going on in your mind through that as well, because always from the outside, it appears different.
Syreeta:
I actually voted in my first election this year twice. Yeah. I'm so apolitical. I'm usually not involved in political stuff at all. And the Crip the Vote was very surprisingly. Everyone that has contributed to Crip the Vote has been remarkable because I was always so against voting. I didn't think that my voice mattered as a person with disabilities. And they really taught me so much more about being a person with disabilities and really how my voice does matter, how my voice is critical and they are amazing, bringing to sensitive to disability and being considered more than in the polling places, but people who are disabled have voting priorities and people who support health care, people who support, like a lot of various things, so, yeah, it's we're more than that. We're more than just living off of the building. We need a seat at the table. So, yeah.
Emily (host):
Definitely. And I mean, it seems like your experience is sort of really shifted the direction of your life. I mean, what did you ever expect? You know, when you were sort of at the depths of trying to come to terms with some of this for yourself, did you ever expect this to happen?
Syreeta:
No, I did not. I expected nothing. Like I mean, I can't I mean, unparalleled in my course as well as UCSD, like I did been here as transfer since in September of last year. But I started my research here in January. So like this networking has been remarkable. And being able to really make a different kind, of course, for myself and do eight months in my lab before I ever started as an undergrad, but it really helped me find that neuroscience. It was very bad. It was not the right fit at this stage. And that I really wanted to learn more about psychology because I can't transform something I don't understand. And I never thought about health policy like I knew I wanted to transform the mental health field through comprehensive preventive strategies like we have in our physical health system. But it wasn't until I talked to the chronic here at UCSD who worked with President Obama on the Affordable Care Act, that they understood that there might be the power of the US Preventive Services Task Force and I could leverage in getting these in place. And then disability advocacy appears and I'm like what should I do with that? What should that do?
Syreeta:
I actually found out about the pain psychology as a discipline during the pandemic, it was in an abusive marriage, was diagnosed with fibromyalgia, like why the fudge did no one tell me that there was a specialty of psychology that dealt with newly diagnosed people and their disability or even people who had their disabilities cope?
Syreeta:
And I'm like, you want me to be advocacy around this as well as health policy for at the beginning of life and at the beginning of a diagnosis of disability, because if there was ever like pain psychology, health psychology or rehabilitation psychology available, it should have been made available to me earlier so that I could have had like that support in beginning to cope rather than just being frustrated by being thrust in the deep end, I hope you have your water wings. You don't? Oh, that's too bad.
Emily (host):
Yeah. I mean, hopefully that's that's a conversation that'll that'll start to be had more naturally as soon as someone's diagnosed that they get offered with various different support systems that aren't just physical but also emotional and mental. And I guess that's part of what I feel really strongly about as well, is sort of normalizing a lot of these conversations.
Syreeta:
Like I mean, I'm so thankful I followed my principal investigator when I Googled her and found that she had Twitter and I'm like why does she have a Twitter? What does she do with it? I thought Twitter was a social media thing that our president used far too much. I didn't know like there was actual like something good to leverage out of Twitter. And I've seen so much good come out of leveraging Twitter. And it's just remarkable. I'm so glad for being on this platform.
Emily (host):
Yeah, I guess that does bring me to that question as well of when you find your voice and it starts to open up opportunities for you, how do you balance that with your self care? Because you're obviously very passionate about, you know, all of these different opportunities. It would be so hard to say no. How do you continue to protect what you need for your health?
Syreeta:
If I say yes, I always try to make sure that I always say yes to something for myself, like even if it's sleeping a little bit more or taking a little bit longer of a shower, and if it's really around a time realizing that no isn't a bad word and realizing that I don't have to do this all by myself a lot with disability advocates will go about this by themselves, I'm the only person in dealing with this, I'm going to do this, I'm going to talk to the administration, I'm going to do this and that and the other. I talked to my EVP Alicia, here at UCSD and I told her, I'm like is there an assistant option available here to help me be more effective and help me when I just feel awful. And yeah, like I was able to get a chief of staff which I'm so appreciative to have, and to be able to have support of other disabled students because I'd rather have 50 percent the effort of a hundred or like fifty people rather than like one hundred percent of just my own effort because, really being a disability advocate, you know, it's more than that because within every underrepresented minority group, even in those communities are aren't underrepresented, you have further under representation within those groups of those who are disabled. So I know that I can't be the sole one to speak that I need to really empower others and through empowering others and empowering needs to have more time to take care of myself and to be there for myself by not just going out and doing everything.
Syreeta:
I go out and help other people do everything. I help other people learn how to lead themselves. It's kind of like the same mantra of being a principal investigator and why you mentor students. Why you share your knowledge, so that the next generation has something that moves forward. And I really feel like focusing on sustainable disability advocacy and advocacy that's more than just the year you are there or the three or four of you started when you began your PhD or your undergrad, that it outlasts you, that you were able to really pass a baton on to the next generation, the next year's leaders in disability advocacy.
Syreeta:
It can't just start and end with you, because if it starts and ends with you, there's no lasting change and I want to really be able to set whatever advocacy, whatever policies that I make, on a strong foundation that really has the potential to stand the test of time, to truly impact the culture and the climate within our institutions and to really make disability not just an equitable place within the diversity, equity and inclusion statement because it says disability, but it's disability has doesn't have the same level of support that black students or LGBTQ students have or female students have. We have inequity. You have exclusion. There has to be a feature where we call on leadership and we make a bigger calling as a group of people yelling for change rather than one person. One person can be drowned out so easily. So we want to empower more people. And you create a crowd and you create a movement. You can't silence that.
Emily (host):
Yeah, that's such great advice because I think it can feel like a huge responsibility when you're trying to make change in areas that you're really passionate about. And so to be sort of thinking forward on that and sort of who can help me, who can support me do this, how can we empower people to be their own best advocates and encourage sort of lasting change? I feel like that's a more sustainable approach. And I think that's that's really great to hear.
Syreeta:
Yeah, because it's great when we think about it. Disability advocacy is unpaid. Everything I do for advocacy is unpaid. I try to plant seeds on disability justice, disability empowerment, finding our place in diversity, equity inclusion and be fully included within the system in those who are paid. I pay tuition here, so I think students really forget their power under the statement, I'm just a students. As you whisper, I'm just a student, or maybe I'm just a disabled student, you aren't just the students until you allow yourself to believe that. And it's almost a self-fulfilling prophecy where you just go to class, you just do your homework and just do your exams and you do anything a student is expected to do. Never, never is anything ever going to change, if you do what is expected to happen. You have to be unexpected. You have to be willing to make a change and be the change maker, that catalyst of change makers within a community to really rise together.
Syreeta:
And if you're grad student, find an undergrad who's disabled and really empower them to see that there is a chance that they can make it where they can be a grad student one day, they can be a postdoc, they can be a tenured professor. Breaking the silence for the sake of a student with disabilities, because we all have the moment a student with disabilities will be applying for services. They'll give you a letter to say what accommodations they need for class in that moment. As a professor, if you have a disability, as a staff member, if you have a disability, say it, reply back to that students and share that you're there, you understand what it's like to live with a disability. There is no career better than pointing out that some telling your students that you're there, you help them so much just by saying, I understand. I'm disabled too.
Syreeta:
And I think that's possibly a really good place for us to end this episode too. Just a reminder to our listeners, Syreeta is cofounder of Disability and Higher Ed and Mental Health Matters.
Emily (host):
She's also been featured in numerous blogs, including Black in Europe and Inside Higher Ed, which will add some links to it as well. And I think it's tomorrow in the U.S. she'll be sitting on an advisory committee with UCLA and Harvard, which she mentioned during episode 2, to improve knowledge on the effects of school reopening strategies during the COVID-19 pandemic on students with disabilities.
Emily (host):
So if our listeners would like to get in touch with you, Syreeta will learn more about you, because there's so much more we could have covered. Where can they find you?
Syreeta:
Yeah, definitely you can find me on Twitter. Nolan_Syreeta. You can also find me at Dis Mental Health Matters and DisInHigherEd.
Emily (host):
So is there anything else you'd like to add before we wrap up?
Syreeta:
Disabilities aren't liabilities, they're hidden capabilities we unlock. But you have to be willing to first realize your disabilities and accept them and not let lessons that ableism tells you become true.
Syreeta:
Make your own story, break your mould. Don't just be the student, be that teacher/leader that the next person needs, that undergrad needs that grad student with disabilities, that grad student needs that postdoc with disabilities needs. Be a champion for those with disabilities. If you are in leadership in academia somewhere and you have disabilities, support staff, faculty, your students with disabilities and say that they can make it too. So yeah, it with the need to movement, that's for disabilities.
Emily (host):
I love that. Thank you. So thanks again for joining me today. Sorry. I think we've had a really great discussion. I'm starting on my learning journey. Thank you for being my first guest.
Syreeta:
My pleasure. Thanks for being my first podcast interview.
Emily (host):
I'm sure you have many more.
Emily (host):
So that wraps up today's episode of Voices of Academia. Again, thank you to the listeners for joining me. On the next episode, we'll meet a brave new voice and hear a different mental health story. I'm Emily King, and I'll see you next time.
Emily (host):
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